“…LEADERSHIP
SHOULD BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR CONVICTION THROUGH THEIR LIFESTYLE…” REV DR
SAMUEL TUGBA
VITAL
STATS
Birth
: 3rd Dec., 1943
Birth
Place: Gboko, Benue State of Nigeria
Making
Christ His Lord and Saviour: 1954
Baptism:
1959
Laying
the Foundation of ECWA, Wuse II: 1987
Retired:
February 17, 2007
Died: Jan 15, 2015
Buried:
Jan 23rd, 2015
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BIOGRAPHY
Rev.
Dr. Samuel Tugba was born on the 3rd of December, 1943 into the
family of the late Pa and Mama Tugba Agundu in Gboko, Benue State of Nigeria.
Like the biblical Samuel, he grew up under the divine direction, guidance and
control of the Almighty God, as can be seen from the pattern of his life and
schooling, culminating in his pastoral call.
Making Christ His Saviour
In
1954, at the age of eleven years, young Samuel gave his life to Christ after
listening to a preacher who had challenged the audience to choose between
heaven and hell. He chose heaven and hence began to grow steadily in Christ. He
was baptized in 1958 in NKST Church in Mkar, Benue State to reaffirm his faith
in God for the rest of his life.
Pastoral Training Experience
In
1967, when the student Pastor Samuel Tugba was at the point of completing his
course, there arose a great need for a pastor in ECWA Good News, Bukuru,
Plateau State. He was the indisputable choice and recommended of the Principal
of his college to the Church. Thus, straight from school, he moved into
pastoring the Bukuru Church which membership was mainly young people, students
and a few mine workers. He faithfully pastored that Church for three years when
another call for a bigger Church in Kano came to him again. He hesitated for
some time, but after prayer, he felt led to go. Thus in November, 1970, he left
for Kano and took over from Pastor Victor Musa who was going for further
studies in the United States.
For
his dedication to the work of the Lord, he was surrounded with the presence and
blessings of God. One of such blessings was after two years of his pastoral
work in Kano, he got married to his late wife, Mrs. Comfort Tugba and they were
blessed with four children: Emmanuel, late Benjamin, late Eunice and Lois
Tugba. Pastor Tugba was in Kano with his family for nine years during which the
Church experienced much spiritual and numerical growth. Among other things, he
had led the Church to establish its own Secondary School and laid the
foundation for a bigger Church building before leaving Kano.
Further Studies
In
obedience to the biblical injunction in II Tim 2:15, young Pastor Samuel Tugba
did not feel adequate with his Diploma in Theology. He therefore disciplined
himself to rigorous studies which earned him GCE ‘A’ Level Certificate in some
papers. With this and his Diploma, he proceeded in 1980 with his family to the
USA for further studies. He returned in 1984 after successfully completing his first and Masters
Degree programmes.
He
came back with the zeal to show himself approved of God, a worker who wanted to
go and faithfully pastor a Church in Makurdi. But ECWA Headquarters decided
otherwise and posted him to Abuja as its liaison Pastor in Federal Capital
Territory (FCT). He obeyed, reported in Abuja and started work in the English
Section in Garki Church on the 5th January 1985. In 1987, he moved
with about 200 members to clear the thick bush and lay the foundation of the
Church which is ECWA, Wuse II today.
His Legacy and Joy
Rev.
(Dr). Samuel Tugba left behind a rich and lasting legacy which includes: ECWA
Wuse II which has greatly grown spiritually and numerically to over 3000
worshippers presently where two services are held.
Rev.
(Dr). Samuel Tugba will be highly remembered as the founding Pastor of ECWA
Wuse II whose humility ,firmness, truth, sincerity and other Godly qualities
have led the whole congregation to cherish and demonstrate God’s love to one
another and to others too. Part of his legacy is that ECWA Wuse II has become a
great centre for leadership training, evangelism, marriage counseling, Bible
Studies and prayer warfare. His dream is to make ECWA Wuse II the Macedonian
Church of our time. He is therefore highly appreciated by his congregation.
ECWA Kano too appreciates him, naming a building after him, and his Alma Mata,
Kagoro Theological Seminary did same by honouring him with an Honourary
Doctorate Degree and naming a dormitory after him. A Microfinance Bank, ECWA
Wuse II Microfinance Bank (EWT) licensed by the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN)
and fully serviced Guest House (Mission Guest House), a currently ongoing
Hospital Project for Bingham University Permanent site are all part of the
legacies he initiated during his era as the Senior Pastor for 22 years.
Rev. Tugba went to be with the Lord on Thursday, 15th January, 2015.
When
the good Lord decided to call our father Rev. Dr. Samuel Tugba home, the editor
went in search of this interview which was granted to the COUNTDOWN CREW in
2007 shortly before the end of the year. We will like to keep Baba’s memory
fresh for as long as we can, thus the crew decided to republish the interview
again. We hope you also find it refreshing like we do. God bless you.
COUNTDOWN:
Would you like to tell us how you would like to be introduced sir?
BABA:
I am Rev. (Dr). Samuel Tugba and also with me is my wife Mrs. Lizzy Tugba. I’ve
worked as a Pastor of ECWA for 39 years, out of the 39 years, I took out five
years to go to school. I have now retired but to me it’s a change of function.
Not being Pastor at the ECWA Wuse II but I am still in the service of the Lord
Jesus Christ, my boss for life. So that’s how I will love to be introduced –
Rev. (Dr). & Mrs. Tugba, retired but not tired, still in the service of the
Lord Jesus.
COUNTDOWN:
Sir, you just said you have been in the service for 39 years and that‘s a long
time. We‘ll like you to share with us briefly, the experience in the ministry,
may be the upcoming Pastors, and some of us too who are working closely with
the ministry could learn something from your 39 years of experience.
BABA:
Immediately after my graduation from Kagoro Bible College in1967, I went
straight to ECWA Good News Church, Bukuru, then in Plateau State and I served
there three years. There, God helped me to start a little Church and it was a
kind of enclosure surrounded by the next staff quarters, there was a very big
Anglican Church building behind… That Church was deserted by the Igbos, this
was during the Biafran war. The war was just about being ended. So we went to
Jos and asked the Anglican Bishop if we could use the Church. The Church
building had become a dumping ground. The Anglican Bishop was very happy. He
said it was better to have God’s children use it than to use God’s building as
a dumping site. So we began to use it but we actually had to clean the Church. I
remember one Mrs. Ferry who was the General Accountant to UNESCO at that time
and she was also a very hardworking housewife. She was a German but the husband
was a Briton. She was very hardworking. She said we should clean the Church
ourselves; this is service we could render to God, not money, not looking for
money to clear refuse. So the Church organized and we cleared the Church
ourselves. Mrs. Ferry was the first one to kneel down to begin to scrub
the floor and remember this place was full of refuse. You know, people were
excreting in this place and a white lady knelt down and cleaned the place and
when I saw that, I became humbled. I also knelt down, when I did, others
joined. This experience taught me something in the Pastoral work. I could not
do the Pastoral work with pride; you could not serve God with pride. That
humbling experience set me up to the foundation of Pastoral work. I was there
for three years until I moved to Kano, ECWA English Section where I spent nine
and half years. The experience in Bukuru helped me in starting off a Church
there too. I took over from Rev. Victor Musa but I also started a new Church
which has become a very big Church now over there. Anyone who goes to Kano from
the Eye Hospital in SIM compound will find there is very big Church there.
Having
worked for nine and half years, there was need to go for more training. So I
went to US with my family then, with my late wife Comfort Tugba and our four
children. We went to US from 1980 April. We spent close to five years in US. We
started working in Abuja, with what is known now as ECWA Wuse II in December
1985 for 22 years after which I retired on the 17th February 2007.
You
are asking of experiences. Those experiences of serving God, some were trying
and challenging experiences, some were pleasant experiences. You don’t expect a
Church to just grow all of a sudden; you have a lot of hard work to put in,
some hours of prayer, when you spend time with the Lord, crying to the Lord to
do His work through you. Teaching the word of God and also wanting to see that
the word of God is being put into practice does not come with nothing or
automatically. It requires some patience, attention and prayer, faithful teaching and
discipleship to be able to get something out of the growing congregation. Those
have been my experiences in my pastoral work. I’ll like to see people come to
Christ and also go into discipleship programmes to build up the faith of
Christians.
COUNTDOWN: Sir,
would you mind sharing with us the major elements that contributed to your
success especially on the field?
BABA:
Humility and dedication, clear sense of commitment to Christ are the key words.
A verse in Psalm 84 says it is better to be a doorkeeper in the house of the
Lord than to be elsewhere. I’ll rather be a doorkeeper in the house of the Lord
that is the least that could be done. Just opening the door, that is a sense of
service, humble service in the household of faith. So, that is the backup that
I told you that, that lady taught me – humility: hardwork with humility.
Wherever I go, I want to sincerely follow God with honesty and humility.
Learning to work together with others as a team; not being a boss, serving God
as one of God’s servants, learning to build up a team… working to do God’s
work. That has been my theme for service.
COUNTDOWN: In
your 39 years of being in the employment of ECWA sir, was there any time , any
situation where we can say you experienced
any difficulty working with ECWA, may be some ideas or some decisions in
the Church administration?
BABA:
Working with ECWA as an organization- there is no way you can work with an
organization without some differences in your service. As an organization, you
have a Constitution but the implementation of this Constitution is another
thing. You have to work together with other Pastors; sometimes you have people
As Chairmen or Local Overseers and to serve as a Pastor under them, the way
they may want you to do things may not be exactly the way you read from the
Scriptures. So there may be differences but you learn to be loyal
administratively but in terms of spiritual ministry, you know that God is your
boss. So, you have to serve him with transparency, honesty and humility.
Whereas you take instructions from other people that you work with, you want to
be sure that you have a clear conscience before God, that your service is
directly to him. So there may be areas of differences in doing your work but
you will want to be careful not to disobey your leaders. You maintain a good
relationship but you know that your boss is Christ himself.
COUNTDOWN: Would you like to point out a particular one
either in Kano or Wuse II, those were the two biggest Churches you pastored?
BABA:
Our administration set up in ECWA, you have your immediate area of
responsibility in the Church you pastor, you call it the Local Church Board
(LCB), there you have Elders and this is the key to your pastoral success. If
you are able to handle church properly, spiritually and maintain a good
relationship with the Elders leading them, then both of you can become loyal to
Jesus Christ. So, what I’ve enjoyed most is the leadership at that level
because here, you deal more with Elders and you deal more with church members
bringing more converts and then going to areas of discipleship where you see
people’s spiritual lives taking shape and the church growing. You may have some
disagreements within the Elders sometimes but then in most cases, once you spend
real quality time studying the Bible and praying, then you have people who
emerge as Elders who desire to see the church growing spiritually. We
have had some cases where we disagree with some Elders, but eventually they
have to respect the truth as the Bible teaches it. Now, I don’t want to
exercise naked power but power as derived from the Word of God. When you know
the truth and you really want to see it practiced, you really begin to see God
at work, the Holy Spirit takes over and those people who are not in line with
the leadership of the Holy Spirit, you find that they will begin to discover
that they are out of shape and that becomes very obvious.
When
you move to the next level of Local Church Council (LCC), where you have a
number of ECWA churches in one place, you have the Pastors coming together to
hold Pastors’ meetings and so on. At that level, you don’t have much in terms
of working… except you are like a Local Overseer. Otherwise you are able to
maintain your contribution at that level, be part of other pastors. Some other
Pastors may not agree with your perception of the ministry because even though
we are an evangelical church, sometimes you have political differences. And
differences in form of tribal differences, and differences in administration,
what the Word of God says. So, you don’t know how to perfectly agree to be able
to relate to each other.
Then
you have another level that is called the District Church Council (DCC). It is
at that Council which is just like a state, where you have the Governor and the
members of the executive. They take leadership of that particular state. This
is what the DCC is all about. They maintain leadership at that level. You see
there an act of loyalty and maintain that type of relationship. Sometime, you
don’t agree but the disagreement may not be such that, you have to physical
struggle or do one thing or the other. This is in terms of responsibility, the
way you see it, the way other leaders see the administrative functions. There
may be differences but you don’t have a pronounced difference where you follow.
Then
you have instructions coming from the headquarters. The Church Council has also
maintained a good relationship with the General Church Council (GCC) especially
in Abuja; because I was actually posted to Abuja… even though I worked with
other Church with all these administrative layouts, I still relate directly
with ECWA headquarters. They have always counted on me; they have always been
respectful, even I to them too. So, my work has been greatly enhanced by good
relationship with leadership and General Church Council, the ECWA Headquarters.
They have great confidence in my ability to perform and lead the Church. So
they gave me all the support I needed throughout my twenty-two years,
especially in Abuja. So that has greatly helped me in my ministry.
COUNTDOWN:
As a Pastor, your era was very appealing to the young and old people alike, a
balanced Church, one would say. What precisely can you pinpoint as a factor
responsible for this? Is it the mode of worship or is it the programmes of the
Church?
BABA:
If you read the Bible, you wouldn’t go too long before you realize that true
life consists of true thanksgiving, commitment to prayers, releasing yourself
to God as a life style. So, worship is part of Christian conviction. You
worship God as you meditate, as you read the scriptures, as you pray, as you
sing. If you read all through the book of Psalms, you’ll realize that worship
involves music, involves the whole of your lifetime which may involve singing;
singing praises to God, sometimes, in times of sorrow. So, this is the type of
music David had so much to convey to us. So, any true Christian should be able
to put his life to God which involves music in terms of expressing one’s
desire, one’s loyalty, one’s commitment, one’s joy, expression of thanksgiving
and that may be done culturally. In the times of Old Testament, they had ways
of expressing their appreciation of God and admission to God. Culturally, David
said “I will dance, I will sing with guitar and drums and other things. So all
these instruments were used even at that time for singing and worshiping God,
The true and living God and in our time, we use modern musical instruments. We
may not use exactly what they used at that time but in our time, what is
available for the praise of God is what we embraced. For as we have a church
comprising of different ages- we have the aged, men, women. But we must learn
to appreciate God and totally enter into the life of worshiping God. The young
people will enjoy singing with musical instruments which carry them along
better. That is part of the ministry of the church. To carry out a
survey and find that, for every given occasion you have, that
70% of the members in the church will be young people. So, if you are going to
carry the whole church along with you, then you have to give proper attention
to the music ministry of the church which will carry along 70% of the Church
with you. You may not be able to satisfy the grownups, the aged, but in that
case you also give freedom so that they too can enjoy at their own level. We
made sure we have sufficient hymn books in the church from which to sing, for
those who may not want to go along with the musical differences that the young
people enjoy. They can enjoy the traditional songs that we sing. We made sure
that all these are available in the Church that different groups may enjoy
worship. So, it’s not a waste of money and I had to take the leadership along
with me, that it’s not a waste of money to invest in having musical instrument
because they will ensure that we have a balanced church –young people and the
elderly people. All will have their spiritual needs met. And the worship life
of the Church in various aspects will also be met. It’s a way of investment, so
that people can truly worship the living God. It is God who provides, who
touches people’s lives to provide money so that this money can be used to have
something that will aid worship in terms of musical worship. It is not a waste!
COUNTDOWN:
How were you able to convince the leadership in Wuse II to devote such amount
of money to the musical instrument, ECWA not being known for that ‘fancy’ of
musical gadgets we have today.
BABA:
We had to invest in musical equipment to be able to carry out the programme, to
carry along with the young people of the Church. At that time, I had to explain
to all the elders that anytime you take the statistics of the Church members,
you will find that about 70% of the Church attendance is young people and you
would have a whole generation with a lot of competitive demands. In the secular
world, you will find a lot of young people are being carried away by secular
music. So if the church is going to play her part in the heart of the young
people and you tell them not to follow or fall into secular music, then you
have to provide an alternative and the alternative in the spiritual musical
life which will involve investment in buying musical equipment. This way you
will have good excuse to build up your young people because if you just tell
them don’t do this, don’t go to cinema, don’t go to public theatre, and don’t
join these people who are jumping here and there, naked music and so on,
they’ll tell you o.k., we have potentials, we have the need within us that need
to be met, where do we go to satisfy this need and if the church does not
proffer alternative, then, we will have no excuse, so you have to proffer
alternative. So, having explained this to the Elders, they too were able to
reason with me, they were able to carry the eldership of the Church along. So
where there is a need to buy these things, we also take the need to the Elders’
Board and say this is the budget for musical department of the Church. This is
how much and so on. So, if there are some that are totally out of place, some
will argue and they will give us reasons but most cases, we have Elders whot
are understanding and they will say, o.k, if this is going to help us to build
up the musical aspect of the worship, let’s go ahead. So we have this
understanding with the leadership of the Church. This is how I have been able
to vote sizeable amount of money to buy modern equipment for the musical
department of the Church.
COUNTDOWN:
You made mention of the young people of the Church and the proportion they make
of the Church, is it the reason you always had time to attend children service.
BABA:
To follow the example of Christ. Christ says you don’t drive away children from
him for of such is the kingdom of God. So, if Christ during his time gave time,
sufficient time to the ministry of meeting with the children, then, if we are
following Christ, the Church actually is the body of Christ, then we should
follow the example of the Master. So we look at children as a very important
arm of the Church because that is where the Church begins. You know on the
level we are to build truth in the life of these children. It is easier to
reach children at the level and so we try to get people who are gifted, who
have a gift of teaching and dealing with children and encourage them, so that
they can truly build up a powerful Sunday School Ministry so that the children
are not left out. They are taught properly at that stage, we are able to
capture them when they are young and working together with parents. We also try
to get parents to go along with the Church, the children’s Church so that what
they are taught in the children’s church is being reinforced in homes and the
Bible gives the true condition to these children both at home and in the
church. So, we have had to look at the Sunday school service very critically.
We have Child Evangelism Fellowship that specializes in ministering to the
children. I’ve got quite a number of members trained in the CEF so that they
can take care of the children’s arm of they can properly take care of the
children’s arm of the teaching ministry of the church.
COUNTDOWN:
Sir, I will like you to give us a word as a Nation, our leadership,
administration of the country and as a pastor who has been at the pulpit for 39
years. When you read papers and you hear news of some activities of some
supposed Christians in the corridors of power, in terms of abuse of office,
maladministration and some other things that are not supposed to be heard
amongst Christians. Can we have your word for today’s Christians in power?
BABA: For me as a Pastor, there was a verse where
Timothy was instructed to obey and I’ve tried to put the particular verse in my
pastoral work. In I Timothy 4:16, Paul told Timothy to be careful with the
doctrine, to observe the doctrine so that in doing it, he will both save
himself and Also help the audience, his hearers. Watch over your doctrine,
because in the obedience of this doctrine and teaching it, you will both help
yourself and those who hear you, your hearers. That is very important because
Paul about himself said follow me, follow my pattern, my example of life. Once
again, he told Timothy, be an example in teaching, in speech, in doctrine, in
whatever you do so we cannot say one thing and do another. We should always
watch. What we find to be the truth in the Scriptures, they should be
implemented in our lifestyles. So, if Church leaders are able to obey what the
Bible teaches, it will be easier to tell other people to do what I do not to
say ‘do what I say and not what I do.’ So we can tell people ‘follow my
example.’ Therefore both in the Church and in the Nation, leadership should be able to
demonstrate their conviction through their lifestyle, through their leadership
style. I tell the people ‘this is the way, walk ye in it.’ That’s what
the Bible says. So we should be able to live a life that could become examples
to others. Leadership by example, even our own president now (Late President
Musa Yar’adua) who said he wants to be a
servant leader. You think that’s a very good thing to do whether he heard it
explained because it is not a normal political statement. So we have been
praying for him so that truly he will be a servant leader. Christ taught his
disciples and said don’t do like others do but do be a servant and let your
servant leadership affect the lives of the people you are leading. You know He
washed the disciples’ feet and He said you call me your Lord and your Master,
this is true; what I have done, you do it to one another. So we should be
people of our words. Actually what will help our society is the truth of the
scriptures being implemented in ordinary lifestyle. Wherever you are, at the
office, wherever you work, the classroom, you should be prepared to put the
truth into action and serve as servant. Be a servant leader, not become so
bossy.
COUNTDOWN:
Do you think that the Church has a role to play in ensuring the philosophy of
servant leadership in our homes and different place of work? What then is the
role?
BABA: Wherever you are as a Christian, you should
be prepared to put the truth into action because God is really the one we are
serving. Leaders, whether in the Church or in the national political set up
should be God fearing because God has given assignments even as Public
servants. Whoever takes the responsibility of a political assignment should
have it in mind that we shall give account of our stewardship one day. It is a
shame that the Church is not a good example in this area. The Church ought to
be in the fore front in setting example as the salt of the earth. What will
help our society is to ensure we practice what we preach. We should lead as
servants. They shouldn’t copy others but copy Bible teachings.
COUNTDOWN:
You would remember the year 2007 for a lot of things. You retired this year on
the 17th February, you remarried this year on the 24th
November and about a week ago, the 3rd December, you celebrated
another birthday, how would you describe the events in the year 2007 as regards
your wedding?
BABA:
His grace has been sufficient. It hasn’t been easy without a wife for the past
six years. Just as the toast on the wedding card says God makes all things
beautiful at its own time, though it has been rough, God has really been there
for us in the face of it all. We are looking up for him to clear the road
because the road is rough. He has brought us through this far and we pray that
He that brought us this far will take us completely through. We still request
prayers from all who know us.